They’re slightly larger in diameter, which increases the friction between the upper and lower receiver and keep eliminates the shimmy."Įxcuse the grammar usage and mechanics. "That’s what the “National Match” takedown pins our reader is talking about do. If a man could hold a rifle the way a machine rest does. So far, I feel you have missed the point, since the machine rests hold the barrel, You dismiss the lower as irrelevant. Can you really say there are top level teams that desire a sloppy fit between upper and lower because "it just doesn't make a difference"? None of these accommodations are required of a barrel in a machine rest. Rifle weights and trigger pulls are "customized" to each shooter's preference. Sight heights are optimized for each shooter. Fit and feel go a long way.Īn example of what I am driving at is that NONE of those teams you mention shoot rifles with no stocks or fore grips. You test barrelled actions objectively and with as few variables as possible (I deduce from you pics and commentary) In reality, marksmanship is a combination of mechanics and "human intangibles". If the thread was "just because I want to", have you got anything to contribute?įrom your daily activities and experience, I would say you do. (well maybe not worse -)īesides, The thread is about how to remove the slop, not if it is needed according to your preference. A sloppy fit will "f%*k with your head like nothing I know. Maybe it is all "in your head", but at any level, shooting is "all in your head". Selection, Fitted horse shoe shims around the take down pin. There are "methods" that the armourers use to take out the slop. If it doesn't feel right, accuracy suffers! It's the bottom lineĭo those teams accept a sloppy fit? Not from my understanding. I took some 600 grit sandpaper to my pin and lightly polished it. If it does, then something is probably wrong with the install. If not then either the upper or lower is causing the issue or the pin could be bad. I do not mean you any disrespect, It's just that your methods and experience are not mine, and I think I speak for thousands of other shooters. Pull the detent and spring and then see if the takedown pin will go in. Machine rests must be also, by their very nature.ĭo you get a chance to shoot bolt guns with 1/8" of slop so you can tell all the dedicated target shooters they are all wet and have been doing it wrong all these many years? You will need to show up at the line and show everyone what fools they have been. Sleds are an entirely different kettle of fish. You see, there is no way a human shooter can hold a rifle like a machine does. Make sure the machine is breathing right, holding right, and following through. Next time, have the machine rest hold the fire arm as gently as a feather with the trigger pull, and Just snug against the butt plate stop (whatever that might be). And I stand by my statement that it doesnt seem like a good idea to remove the take down pin completely every time, if the KNS pin has you doing that.Machine rests don't have a need to feel "right". I'm genuinely curious as to how hard he must have to push the standard pin to get get it to dislodge itself from the detent. I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not so I'm not being defensive. Maybe his detent spring is too long or something.shrug. Which the dsg link above has a standard ar15 take down pin also in stock. I haven't shot with either of them yet though.īut I think he only wants a new take down pin. The safety seems easier to flip than I am used to, but it doesn't seem overly loose. I just installed 2 PSA LPK's with ALG QMS triggers and all installed without a problem. the trigger so you can put your own in if you like.Īll in stock at the time of posting. And I stand by my statement that it doesnt seem like a good idea to remove the take down pin completely every time, if the KNS pin has you doing that. Click to expand.I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not so I'm not being defensive.
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